Eminem vs Cage

How many whack and average artists have accused Eminem to have copied their style or rhymes? Well, if Eminem was actually inspired by some of you and took some of your whack or average work to make it look brilliant, that makes him appear much more than a genius in the public�s eyes.

Underground rapper Cage from New York belongs to those emcees who claim that Eminem copied their rhymes and their style.
Their beef goes back to the release of the Slim Shady EP in 1998. At this time, Cage accused Eminem to copy his rhymes and his style, which has been denied by Eminem. Cage gets dissed in the song �Role Model� from the Slim Shady LP, where Eminem says: �Bought Cage�s tape, opened it and dubbed over it.�
Eminem also disses Cage in a freestyle called �Drastic Measures�:

�Are you afraid of a blade made of a razor wit AIDS
Blood dripping from it
Ripping your stomach up from the waist up
You talk a lot of junk, but you was never ill though
I’m strong enough to beat you to death with a feather pillow
Tipped over some cows, just for a joke and a laugh
Jumped up choked a giraffe
Snapped its neck and broke it in half
Waging wars
Went on stage and sprayed Cage wit Agent Orange
And wiped my ass wit his page in Source
The demon is here, i’m steaming this year
I rip Mystikal’s voice box out, and scream in his ear
It’s not a gimmick trick, it’s an image I live it
Give a damn? I don’t know what a damn is to give it
Man I don’t think this guy is well, I’m high as hell
I beat you with a live cat while I’m swinging him by his tail
I’ll freakin’, I’ll freakin’
Lay your nuts on the dresser, just your nut sack by itself
And bang them stuffs wit a spiked bat
Cut your neck off, and glue your head right back, and leave you like that
You just triggered the prick who mixed liquor
Who’s itching to leave you disfigured
And stiffer than Chris “Stiffer” Reeves
I was teething with strep throat when your mother was breast feeding
And gave her the flesh eating disease
I’m iller than taking a hammer and beating your knees
And walking through South Central L.A. bleeding in jeans
Flash you back to being shot and repeating the scene
On how you just got smoked
And if you do live
You’ll be too scared to tell it, like a Biggie and Pac joke
Did my best to edit in the curses
In these verses
When it dispurses…�

Despite the fact both emcees despise each other, Eminem and Cage have something in common: both are abused children. The article �Rage In The Cage� will give you further information about the underground emcee:

http://music.ign.com/articles/424/424016p1.html?fromint=1

Cage calls Eminem�s rhymes “Tired rhyme styles from Detroit, Michigan”.
Cage justifies his retaliation against Eminem this way: “It started because he is a bitch ass nigga! Right now it stands with me kicking in his fucking face, real horrorshow, I ain�t lettin� all the shit he said slide.”

Here are some lines written by Cage that are directly aimed at Marshall and at his alter egos:

I heard some blonde bitch walking through New York looking for Cage, I’ll stab you in the face, ten times in the same place. Lace your little infant ’til you thinking different, When in the same building on the street lift you off your feet. The illest four letter word in the world, supporter, Rhyme slaughter, the listener to death save the gun for the Blonde Ambition, fell off the Christian wagon. Your systems saggin biting my shit and I’m laughing, I can freak simple shit and sell records but I don’t. I write the illest shit that cause fans to enter bitin’ zones, Keep your guards by your guard you showing cards on the low. See a man gotta deal, now y’all look just like ‘Cro (Necro), all you schizophrenics need help with reality. Kill your two little personalities, shark getting snuck a salary, Observe gravity pullin ya in to earth gradually. You’ll see you need a style I create to try and battle me…�

Cage, who despises Slim Shady calls Eminem�s alter ego �Censored Lady�. He also created a Dr Dre diss called �Still Cage� which is supposed to be a parody of �Still Dre�.

Since the beginning of his career, Eminem has caused a lot of envy and jealousy in the world of hip hop. Because he is incredibly gifted for rap and because he handles words like nobody, many emcees would like to be rap like him.
Why not try to improve your style and work a lot harder instead of picking on the best MC?

98 comments

  1. Bdizz’s avatar

    Thats cause he is NOT the best MC. Are you serious? Explain Encore, that is a piece of shit. Cage ‘s flow and style destroys Eminiem. Eminems Slim Shady LP is his best and only album. He has become to money driven, nothing he says has any meaning just 100% pure garbage.

  2. Wombaticus Rex’s avatar

    Wake the fuck up, my man — Eminem DID bite Cage, repeatedly, and Movies for the Blind and Hell’s Winter both outshine anything Eminem has ever done….and judging by his last two albums, anything he will ever do. Learn your history.

  3. Mike Phillips’s avatar

    Yeah, Bdizz and Wombaticus Rex are obviously right. I’m currently listening to Movies for the Blind and Hell’s Winter on Shuffle, and it certainly does outshine Eminem. The only denying it would have to be pop culture. You wont ever see a Cage video on MTV, and he can still outshine Eminem. I think there are more and more people listening to underground music now, so artists like Cage can still sell albums. If it wasn’t for Ems major label, Cage would have it in the bag. But Cage doesn’t want to lower himself to that level, where every new album just gets cornier and more ridiculous than the last.

  4. Ox’s avatar

    C’mon man Cage was accusing Em of stealing his shit even befor Em blew, its obviose he wasnt doing it for the attention or anything to that nature. My guess is you have never listend to any Cage albums and just assume thats he wack couse he aint on mtv, and Em hasnt been dope since the MM lp, how can he be the best?

  5. Tailb’s avatar

    Cage is wack. I went to a Cage concert and that shit was terrible. Atmosphere (Slug) is better than both Cage and Eminem. That stabbin, horror, murder, death, kill crap gets boring.

  6. loyaltyXrespect’s avatar

    you have obviously not heard Hell’s Winter. Give it up, Cage wrecks Eminem with everything he does.

  7. TITTYTWISTER.’s avatar

    PEEP SMUT PEDDLERS KIDDIE.

  8. TroubledThought’s avatar

    Cage in my opinion is far better than Eminem, however Em is still tight. The problem i have is that kid who said Atmosphere is better than both Cage and Em. He or she should stop crying themself to sleep. My music is much like Atmosphere, and we both suck!

  9. Jay’s avatar

    Screw Cage, Eminem forever. So they were both abused, forget Cage, Eminem’s beef with Cage put Cage on the map, we wouldn’t have known he existed without Eminem. Em never actually released “role model” as a diss to Cage and Cage took it personally. So screw Cage, Eminem is better.

  10. anti-social’s avatar

    I’m more of an Eminem fan, than a Cage fan. But in the beef Cage won, hands down. He never really stopped dissin Em. Check out the tracks: Illest 4 Letter Word, Bitch Lady, Escape To 88, And So Kiddies then there’s tracks with little disses in like A Crowd Killer, Unlike Tower 1, Haterama (part 1).

    I think Kuniva once had a line dissin Cage, sayin something about pourin piss down his throat and tellin him he had AIDs.

  11. Fluency’s avatar

    Are u fuckin kidding me? alright, i’ll admit, i’m a huge underground hip hop fan, but never took the time to listen to cage’s shit until just now. i heard “Hell’s Winter”, & don’t have the first clue to what makes him appealing. he reminds me of a ….. more talented version of ICP… which means, he still sucks. i, myself, am an underground artist & just started doing local shows, & traveling to austin & manhattan this summer to do more of them since i’ll have time… & one thing i know – if you’re an average mc, but want to obtain a huge following, claim you’re “horrorcore” & you’ll have a mob of confused, depressed, mad-at-the-world fans behind u. i’ll be the first to admit that “Encore” was pure shit w/ the exception of m/b 3-4 songs, but Hell’s Winter? there’s not one track on that garbage album that i’d ever play again.

    go back to listening to punk rock/death metal, scream in the mic, & leave underground hip hop alone – & take dumbasses like cage & ICP w/ u. cage’s lyrics are sub-par… they’re descriptive but repetitive, the lyrics aren’t complex at all, his flow’s choppy as fuck, his delivery is horrible… i’m tired of hearing the same universal corny wanna-be voice over & over. take ppl like blackalicious for example, nice lyricist… but corny voice. some ppl have the voice for hip hop, some dont… cage doesn’t. when i first heard about cage, i expected some horrorcore repetitive punk rocker turned rapper… but i expected breathtaking lyrics after reading opinions from his fans – his lyrics are average at best ppl. & “The Eminem Show” was actually my favorite album by em to date… ppl mature as they grow older, & true mc’s don’t feel the need to fit a mold. on that cd, em talked about real shit – but still shined lyrically… on encore, the complexity of his lyrics fell off. listen to any cage freestyle, then listen to an em freestyle… they’re on 2 completely different levels ppl.

    & i actually like atmosphere – i don’t think he’s nearly as good as em was when he was coming up, but he’s a shit load better than cage. eyedea’s pretty nice too. this is a prime example of confused suburban kids ruining hip hop though. i’m white, but it annoys the hell outta me when i see someone’s myspace page for example, & see “Favorite Artists: rock rock rock rock, eminem, rock etc.” if u like hip hop & like eminem or cage or whoever b/c u like they’re music… props, but if u just listen to them & like them b/c they’re white, you’re retarded. in this thread u have “the best mc” discussion brought up, & cage, eminem, atmosphere, etc. are thrown out there – you’ve gotta be out of your fucking mind if u think someone like cage is the best mc ever. atmosphere? not close, eminem? not anymore, never was either… but he’s up there. listen to ppl like Louis Logic (the best mc IMO), Celph Titled, One Be Lo, Apathy, AZ, Nas, Jay Z, Common, Ras Kass, Canibus, Rakim, Talib Kweli, etc. – then tell me that “Cage” is anything above average. cage isn’t hip hop, period.

    oh & btw, whoever was saying something regarding “cage could easily sign w/ a major label & blow up, he just doesn’t want to”…. hang yourself…. twice. believe me, anything that cage sells is due to his skin color & “horrorcore” label. i have a ton of friends from diverse backgrounds/cultures. most actually like eminem. why would a black person like eminem? b/c if u appreciate lyrical skill & talent, u respect him. if i put in that “Hell’s Winter” bullshit, those same ppl would look at me like i was crazy. rakim himself said “if eminem wasn’t white, he might’ve not sold as many records, but he’d still sell a ton b/c the cat has a lot of talent”. i’d bet my life savings that a hip hop mastermind/icon like rakim would turn cage’s shit off after 20 seconds. now, proceed to go watch House of 1,000 Corpses, paint your face, put on your all black attire, & leave REAL hip hop alone.

    Sincerely Yours,
    Fluency

  12. Nas’s avatar

    Yo cage is nasty! Ems old shit was hot but yo he’s been sleepin on that shit. DAmn Cage has some nasty shit tho. yo Keep it real! 1

  13. DeTRAWMenTAl’s avatar

    if u sayin da best mc is the one hu uses their lyrics to show how ‘fucked up’ and ‘dangerous’ they are on da mic then on av. Cage has the sicker style. ive listened to them both enuf n I fort eminem was sicker at 1st, but i reckon thats only cos ive erd him more. Plus he was the 1st one i erd with that sorta style so it was all new n he had no real competition wiv as much limelight as him. if they both came out at the same time and blew up cage wuda kicked his fuckin head in. only reason y ems style has matured is cos he had to if he wanted to be mainstream. U cant sell records if ur saying ‘stab a cunt fuck u jus take loads ov drugs’ all the time its not gonna work so he had to broaden his style n make it more accessible to more types of ppl.

  14. Watermouth’s avatar

    Fluency… you just said you never bothered listening to cage until hell’s winter… lol his old shit is some of the craziest hip hop ever. listen to movies for the blind, weather proof, and leak brothers before making your shit argument … I mean your comparing him to icp… LOL, are you deaf? Ems got nothing on Cage…

  15. Clockwork’s avatar

    Hells Winter is garbage and so is Encore, but Cage will never be anywhere near Eminem’s level. That dude Fluency spoke the truth.

  16. facemelter’s avatar

    If you call Hells Winter horrorcore you loose all credibility right there. Red flag #2 is ” i, myself, am an underground artist”…sure. 3rd, you think Cage woke up one day and said, Horrocore! thats it! If you knew jack about music in general you would know that artists dont come up with labels for their music, thats for the critics. You think i waste my time typing out Eminem is medicore at best, and he sucks Viacom’s dick? What for? I have plenty of excellent music to keep me entertained without listening to something constructed by a record label that things im a mongoloid and will buy anything. Get back to your rhymes and stay off the internet trying to explain other peoples music.

  17. Agent Orange’s avatar

    Fluency-

    Dude seriously your an idiot, your pretty much saying that anyone listening to hardcore, punk, progrock etc shouldnt be listening to hiphop? i listen to all forms of music including rap.
    eminem is a fucking sellout poser that has no respect to fans or any credibility. anything cage touches is fucking gold, and im sick of cunts saying cage is an indie fuck and all that shit because he doesnt where the fucking hiphop uniform and has people like daryl palumbo featuring (head automatica and glassjaw also cages closest friend). cage is bringing something new to the plate by doing these things.

    Most commercial music loves the cock anyway including eminem.

  18. friend of cage’s avatar

    CAGE RIPS SHIT COMPAIRED TO THAT SLIM SHADY FUCKER

  19. Agent Orange’s avatar

    agreed

  20. Agent Orange’s avatar

    Oh and by the by fluency, we all listen to the mc’s you listed and cage.

    you miss the point, its not just the way he does it or what he says, its the ideas presented in his music that make is so amazing.

  21. london city man dem’s avatar

    listen u fools eminem is the best thing to come out of rap since pac and big in my opinion he is in the top 2 best lyricist’s ever on par with 2 pac. who the hell thinks this “cage”even deserves to be spoke of!!!!!!!!! em’s lirical content is a work of art that even William Shakespere would have to marvel at. i think alot of u head bangin metal heads need go back and listen to ur slipnot and slit ur writs. LONDON BIG UP…WERE TAKIN OVER SOON.

  22. Derral’s avatar

    I think Cage “LYRICALLY” better thanEminem guys… COME ON MAN!! Don’t give me wrong, Eminem is a pretty nice rapper. I understand the people who said Eminem better than Cage because Eminem shook the WHOLE rap-game with his album. Each EMINEM album sold over 4X. But when is comes to lyrics in my opoinion, Cage is better.

  23. Derral’s avatar

    o yea…. ya might be mad if i say this but that “Tailb” dude is right. Slug is better than both Eminem and Cage. to me, people who don’t like atmosphere never bought an atmostphere album or just don’t like Underground rap much. Atmosphere latest album and “Overcast” are both HOT albums… but i disagree when “Tailb” said Cage only raps abous horror stuff… listen to Hell’s Winter.

  24. Farley’s avatar

    Eminem the 2nd best rapper??? u stupid man. Eminem is NOWHERE as good as Nas, Jay-Z, Big L, Phonte, Raekwon, GZA, Big Pun, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Ghostface, Common, Lyrics Born, and the list goes on!! I don’t even think Eminem is the best white-rapper. To be honest with u man… i think Sage Frances, Aesop Rock, Slug, 7L & Esoteric are better than Eminem lyrically. Also Cage is an amazing rapper dawg, Better than Eminem in my book. Hell’s Winter and Movies for the blind shit all over eminem album… i think Marshall Mathers is REAL over-rated… so before u say anything else stupid as that… go learn more about rap and shut the fuck up!

  25. Thug Life’s avatar

    Everyone needs to stop hating on Eminem so much.. the man gets no credit for what he’s done. Yes, Encore was garbage (except for the fat beats) but lets be honest here. The best lyrical artists can tell stories in their songs instead of regressing back to lame nursery rhymes. Pac could do this, Biggie could do this, Big L could do this, and so can Eminem. The only other rappers able to do this today consist of game, immortal technique, and then kanye,mosdef, etc.. if you like that rap. What really makes Eminem so good is the fact that you can ACTUALLY understand him. He articulates his words extremely well and raps about funny, crazy, and serious shit.

    Cage’s lyrics are boring and his beats are horrible. His album belongs in the trash along with himself.

  26. hey’s avatar

    Obviusly eminem is better then cage becuz no 1 wants to sighn cage cuz all his shits gay and the same, eminem slays cage in any freestyle that ive ever herd.

  27. Mike’s avatar

    I think it’s funny how all of the pro-eminem people posting on here have horrible spelling.
    It immediately makes me think you’re all a bunch of kids.

    Ya Eminem has had a few decent tracks, but all his more recent tracks suck (especially the ones with D12).

    Cage is amazing.
    His beats are awesome, his lyrics are great and flow so well, his work with The Weathermen kicks ass.

    Cage has an actual story to his life.
    His father was a heroin addict who abused him.
    He moved to Germany and lived with his uncle, who abused him.
    He came back and ended up in a nut house and was a guinea pig for the not-yet-released prozac drug, which ended up making him suicidal.
    He got out and ended up being a drug addict, and still depressed.
    And now he’s clean and raps about how horrible his past was, and gives hope to those going through those things.
    Cage survived it all, and he’s a better man now for it.

    THAT is a fucking life’s story.

    What the fuck does Eminem have on that?
    “Oh, I was brought up on 8-mile in a trailer park and I had no friends”
    boo fucking hoo.
    Ya sure, he’s on MTV and everyone in America knows who he is, but he’s got no style now.
    Every song he releases now is a fucking joke.
    and the joke isn’t even that funny.

    Eminem sucks solo.
    Eminem sucks w/ D12.
    Cage is awesome solo.
    Cage is awesome w/ The Weathermen.

  28. Agent Orange’s avatar

    And that people sums it up ^

    any cage haters here seriously need to actually listen to him, you obviously heard someone bagging your idol eminem and immediatly wrote cage off.

  29. L’s avatar

    OMG i Luv U Em!!1!111!

    not.

    I’m obviously on Cage’s side here. …Hense my ability to type properly.

    ANYWAY

    To his credit, Eminem started off gritty with some half way decent lines, I mean I remember listening to him back in like…8th grade. But come on, look at him now. He’s a “celebrity” not an artist. What’s he like 5’7″ and a buck 20, always surrounded by his big bad security guards. Wow, thugggg life.

    For the person who said Cage could be signed to a major label but chooses not to…Def Jux might night be a MAJOR label but they are definitely up & coming, not to mention they feature some other really great artists. Cage could have been just as big as Em if he had done the same: SOLD OUT. Cage’s style has EVOLVED but he hasn’t ditched the rawness that makes him…him. He’s more dedicated to his work than that, &more dedicated to his fans. I’m sure he’d love to be living in some huge mansion sitting on millions, we all would; Cage, however, has stayed down to earth.

    &For the record…Chris has overcome ten lifetimes more in his personal life than Em could even dream of fabricating. & all that shit about growing up in a trailer park on 8 mile road….yeah, go visit there sometime, not a trailer park in sight.

  30. Cree’s avatar

    Hey, just bc eminem is mainstream and Cage is underground hip hop doesnt mean he automatically sucks. He’s up there for a reason. At least you can understand what the fuck’s comingg out of his mouth- as opposed to aesop rock. And who you are as an artist doesn’t depend on how bad your life was. People can’t choose where they’ll be born- and their circumstances. What if Cage hadn’t grown up with abusive family. Eminem grew up with abusive shit too. You try growing in a trailer park in detroit- with no father supporting. It isn’t about the stories they can tell. It’s about the talent that they do have.

  31. Ultraviolence’s avatar

    Are you serious saying Cage is sub-par and he’s wack trynna claim Eminem bit his style.

    Lets take a look at something, Go back, way back to the Infinite album and Slim Shady EP (EP not the LP) now listen to both of them then listen to Cages shit which was before the release of SSEP now Cage had a violent ryhme style and stuff, then listen to SSLP and MMLP and tell me Eminem did not at least get ideas of Cage. You must be stupid as hell to think not.

    HAHA and saying they both were abused all I can tell from Eminem is that he was bullied and had a bad mum/mom (ive been bullied so many people have) now Cages childhood oh lord. His dad was a Heroin addict and had a stand off with A sherrif after his dad turned the gun on his kids. this was at the age of 8, Cage then had stepdads and one of his step dads beat him repeatedly (listen to The Soundtrack) then his mother sent him to his uncle’s who was a vietnam vet and hated Cage and beat him for a year, then cage went back to his mothers and stepdads where he got into drug and more trouble from 13 to 15 where he then was sent to a mental Institution by his mother, he spent 18 months there (in stoney Lodge) it was supposed to be a 2 week evaluation. after he got out he started rapping.

    Now who had it worse?!

  32. Agent Orange’s avatar

    eminem!111!

    nah cage

  33. Heartz’s avatar

    Who ever said that shit in the blog about “Talentless no name rappers claiming eminem took styles” needs to shut up and get there head out of the MTV gutter , if you havent heard of cage before eminem said his name that doesnt mean dude is wrong or wack or whatever.It just means your to close minded to stop listining to top 40 radio stations and downloading fake eminem remixs off of kazaa (ie EMINEM CAGE DISS REMIX FET JAY Z PDIDDY BIG BOI RICK ROSS OUTLAWZ 2PAC SNOOPDOG) smarten up yungin!

  34. JC’s avatar

    well i downloaded the Hell’s winter album, and i felt sleep from 12:00 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. and i still want to do it everytime i hear the name Cage, he has good lyrics and a nice flow but those beats are borin as fuck.
    and ’bout Eminem, since i hear the Straight From the Lab EP he’s dead for me.

    WE WANT DEEEEEETOX!!!!

  35. TekNISHIN’s avatar

    in all honesty this is a battle that will never be one…people here are comparing cage and em to people not even in that fuckin catagory.

    if we’re talking in terms of white rappers hands down Louis Logic or Apathy are the most talented in that catagory. But i dont even think this is a matter of who is the best MC. Cage is lyrically more interesting to listen to than Em. Eminem has some good lines and some pretty risque stuff, but for what its worth, Cage steps farther over the line then Em does, people gawk at Em’s lines because hes fucking mainstream where as you dont see cage ripping apart a human body on MTV – eminem has mad a fucking career out of dissing on people which in my mind is fucking pathetic. In all honesty, Cage is my favorite rapper and not because hes white or because hes got that horror-core style its because of his history and how it amplifies the intensity in his music .

    Non-Phixion (Ill Bill, Goretex, Sabac Red, DJ Eclipse)
    Necro
    Cage Kennylz Or all the Weathamen for that matter
    Apathy, Celph, Louis
    El-P

    ^^ all those MC’s are lyrically talented in their own ways, beats lyrics, evoking feelings in your mind, its all just a game to see who can evoke a response from you…em disses people to get responses…

    CAGE WINS :)

  36. TekNISHIN’s avatar

    oh and that dude Mike nailed it on the head…i couldnt have said it any better myself…

  37. Agent Orange’s avatar

    CK WON

    anyone anyone

    get it?

  38. Agent Orange’s avatar

    i wonder if chris palko reads all these stupid blogs?

  39. Derral’s avatar

    “Until the worms eat my flesh I guess they better burn me
    These are the thoughts of a child I keep ’till thirty
    I lack patience ’till I was packed with patients
    In the mental facility forced on all the wrong medications
    Prozac genie pig, I don’t feel bipolar
    But got a folder that claims I am in a stack that reaches my shoulder
    Music, my only savior in every instance
    Makes each one of you a prophet to my existence”

    CLASSIC!!!!!!

  40. way out in space’s avatar

    both great rappers. i think em WAS a better rapper than cage.
    cage is better in presens.
    but at the time when they where beefing there is no doubt about who came out as the better-man.

    em.

  41. Derral’s avatar

    Overall more people say Cage better than Eminem and thats it!

  42. Me’s avatar

    What the hell is wrong with some of you??? Who gives a damn who beefs with who???? Eminem had beef with Canibus too….you people can’t even think for yourselves, you just side with whoever you’re a fan of. Whoever said Cage’s lyrics are boring….UHHHH have you heard “Grand Ol’ Party Crash”??? His lyrics are far from boring, they’re pretty fucking amazing.

    I think Eminem’s great too, I’ve always been an Eminem fan since before I heard of Cage.. (wasn’t really exposed to much underground back then) and even after I started listening to Cage, I wasn’t clear on his beef with Eminem… and franky, I don’t really give a shit. They’re both sick MCs, who gives a fuck about whatever personal drama they had??? I think Canibus is the shit too, even Eminem would admit he’s skilled…

    Though I have to say Eminem’s newer shit is somewhat disappointing… I loved The Eminem Show and everything before that, but Encore ehhh some songs are alright but in comparison to his old shit it’s mediocre… however Cage’s most recent album Hell’s Winter is incredible. I like the old shit too but it just seems like with this album he’s grown as a person and as a MC and his lyrics show it…

    Atmosphere is good too, but I haven’t really gotten into him as much as Eminem and Cage… Necro is great too, although probably too brutal for some… and I can’t believe no one’s mentioned Aesop Rock??? Also Kool Keith aka Dr. Octagon, Immortal Technique…probably more I can’t think of right now.

    OKAY somebody said something up there that pissed me off… about how Cage isn’t even hip-hop and how he would only sell because he’s white… I didn’t even know he was white when I first started listening to him… WHO FUCKING CARES ANYWAY? Sure it would effect record sales because he’d stand out but that DOESN’T take away from his talent…and he CAN write and he CAN rap… and some people might not be exposed to a lot of underground rap, so if they like mostly rock music and happen to like Eminem, so what? That’s probably the only kind of good rap they were exposed to…

    Maybe Cage isn’t the BEST rapper ever but he’s one of my personal favorites, probably because I feel like I can relate to him more. Canibus is great and all, but sometimes it’s like he’s just so out there… Cage’s lyrics I can just FEEL more, and that’s how it was with Eminem too… if they were black, would they write about the same things? They would have different lives…

    I don’t just relate to them because they’re white either, it’s just certain patterns of thinking that show up in their writing and it’s like wow… Insane Clown Posse are white and I don’t FEEL them like I FEEL Eminem and Cage… just get over the fact that they’re white and don’t fucking tell people to kill themselves because they recognize their talent and maybe they actually prefer them because of their lyrical CONTENT, not their skin color.

  43. Stealthem’s avatar

    eminem is way better cage sucks dick yo gay ass i could bear cage in a freestyle fucking pussies

  44. Stealthem’s avatar

    cage sucks i could beat him in a rap battle he’s to gay for me cuz i rather to a real life story kind of a rap then cage’s gay ass homo shit CAGe IS a FAGgot

  45. Agent Orange’s avatar

    yeah man youre an original gangster.

    fucking faggit

  46. Dakej’s avatar

    Fluency, you lost all my respect when you said Louis Logic is the best MC. Louis Logic has awful flow and sounds cheesy as hell. He’s a frat boy on a mic. Also, the fact that you’re judging Cage off of one album is crazy. Go back to Movies for the Blind, then you can talk. Also, Cage is a much better lyricist than Slug. You’re dissing “horrorcore” fans and you come out saying you like emo rap! WTF?

    I’d have to say, I like Cage better as an artist, but I think that Eminem is better with the disses. As for those two verses above though, I’d have to go with Cage. Eminem comes out with a bunch of threats that he could really say to anybody. He could have put anybodies name in that track. It wasn’t really a diss so much as an “Oh yeah!? Well I’ll beat you up!” Cage, on the other hand, made several personal attacks on Eminem. That makes it pretty much in favor of Cage right there.

  47. Dakej’s avatar

    To clear up, I like Slug. I just think he attracts a lot of emo people.

  48. beanz’s avatar

    i just saw this now, but if anyone is listening, this is how it breaks down

    em is pop, commercial he does shit just for $, he is not an artist, maybe at one time early in his career, he was true to himself. and i’ll use the cliche ‘he sold out’. really.
    he sacrificed his originality and creative artistry for $. but who can blame him.

    commercial music in general is purposely made dumbed down to reach more people and sell more records. even jay-z said ‘i dumbed down my lyrics and doubled my dollars’. it is just a fact that the majority of people in our country are not intelligent and creative mentally. there is a ‘follow the herd mentality’ and most people cant explore music past the radio and mtv, where em thrives.

    thinking logically, being a fan of music that takes intelligence to understand artistic concepts, i personally think cage is a much better artist. em cannot even be considered an artist. he is just a rapper, specifically a battle-rapper.

    it is a shame that so-called underground and indie artists will never get the attn they deserve, b/c simply the more creativity and originality you put in music the less people it reaches. simply the general public cannot understand anything but simplicity.

    like dreddy kruger says, please attempt to “Think Differently”

  49. Clockwork beats suck’s avatar

    1. New eminem sounds like he just tries to make his whole verse into one word making a different noise for each word.

    2. Eminem does not know how to produce music. At all. Name 3 tracks he made, where he could have used MILLIONS of different snares, that didn’t use a hand clap to keep tempo. Gross.

    3. You have zero credibility as far as hiphop goes.

    -Comparing ICP to Cage.

    -saying, ” The Eminem Show” was actually my favorite album by em to date.

    - claiming you like Atmosphere, but then referring to Atmosphere as one person. The guy you meant was Slug.

    -comparing Eminem to Slug. Uh… they’re both white and they write rhymes.
    similiarties cease there.

    - you stated, ” now, proceed to go watch House of 1,000 Corpses, paint your face, put on your all black attire, & leave REAL hip hop alone.”

    leading me to believe both that you are ignorant to the definition of horrorcore and to what real hiphop is.

    -you said Celph Titled would have the spot of best MC over Cage.
    Wow. Have you ever heard of anything called context? or subject matter?
    Celph Titled is a series of punchlines with no common idea or motive mixed with glued on facial hair.

    -Cage not complex?

    ” I put a sick twist on every other frame design so, you see AIDS victoms sellin pretzels at a slide show ”

    get a fucking clue, please. we are not trying to get you to like cage.
    if you’re going to claim you know what “real hiphop ” is then get a clue.

    oh, and eminem recycled his “freestyle” lines. that punk used shit during a freestyle battle that was on his Infinite cd. what a punk.

    Oh. AAAAAAANNNDDDD let us not forget he lost to J.U.I.C.E. who is from CHICAGO. get fucked buddy.

    CK WM CC

    ” Used to pistol whip, till Shady made it look pussy”

    P’z

  50. JJ Schmidt’s avatar

    Yeah! Eminem is good and has gotten the credit but Cage rips it too and doesn’t get the credit he’s deserved.

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